69: Bernie Banks on Leadership Development at Large Scale
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- Oct 26
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Updated: Nov 4
A peer-to-peer discussion with the Director of Rice University’s Doerr Institute for New Leaders and Clinical Professor of Management at the Jesse H. Jones Graduate School of Business.

🎙️In Episode 69 of the Deans Counsel Podcast, we host an instructive conversation with Bernard "Bernie" Banks, Director of the Doerr Institute for New Leaders at @Rice University on how you redefine and measure leadership development at scale.
“If we can't measure it effectively, we don't do it. So for every one of our programs, we have very clear developmental objectives that are arrayed against a variety of psychometric instruments,” said Banks.
Drawing upon his expansive experience—including service as a Brigadier General, Chair of West Point's Department of Behavioral Sciences and Leadership, and faculty at @Kellogg School of Management—Banks provides a sophisticated framework for developing and scaling high-impact leadership programs in academic environments.
Episode 69 moves beyond conventional wisdom, exploring the necessity of creative methodologies to cultivate a leadership mindset in students.
In this critical conversation, Banks addresses the challenges of accountability, detailing how institutions can establish robust metrics to measure real-world outcomes and connect leadership capacity directly to institutional strategic imperatives.
“How can you do something that's truly differentiated and defensible? Both matter,” Banks contends.
This episode is essential listening for Deans and academic leaders committed to elevating the practice and verifiable impact of leader development across higher education.
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Photos courtesy of Bernie Banks and Rice.
Read more about Bernie Banks here.